Dude, the thing you gotta realize is that skit was prettymuch a showcase of several of the worst things Christianity gets accused of, whether the accusation is fair or not.ChickenSoup wrote:I can't take this discussion seriously if we keep calling this an attack. It reminds me of when people used to claim that the Simpsons was an attack on the idea of the American family.
-Christians want to deny basic services to gays? Check.
-Christians are anti-semitic? Check.
-Christians act like martyrs? Check.
It only amazes me they left out an accusation of Christians wanting to control women by denying them abortions. Maybe I just missed it.
If you're going to do satire, fine. Do satire, but this was handled sloppily. I can't stress this enough... too often people's perceptions will be influenced by this material.
SNL has a ton of influence in pop culture. They know that. That means they have a certain responsibility to be aware of how this material is going to come across.ChickenSoup wrote: Regardless, Fey nailed the impression that Palin is a few pews short of a full church. It isn't SNL's fault that people took one line and ran with it.
SNL writers are left-leaning, and in other news, water is wet. I get that. So are the majority of the viewers. That means they're not likely to carefully scrutinize how realistic this satire is. "Yuk yuk, it's funny 'cause Christians hate gay people."ChickenSoup wrote: Hey man, those guys are awesome! And... also one of them is currently running a rehab farm for (IIRC) abused farm animals. And the other is on CBS. REGARDLESS, I don't see what your point is. Those guys are pretty sharp dudes, anyway, and they have a pretty good eye for politics [that most conservatives would disagree with, etc. etc.]
Of course not. You know I'm against censorship. I have a problem with people telling me (and other Christians who find this troubling) that we should just be quiet and stop making mountains out of molehills. It's like everybody else can be offended by every other thing on TV but the instant Christians speak up we get a lecture on how we shouldn't worry about nothing.ChickenSoup wrote: In all seriousness, what is your argument? That we remove satire from TV?
I actually liked the South Park 2 part episode in which they showed how readily television will ridicule Christianity in the most visceral way, but is absolutely terrified of even the slightest hint of offense toward Muslims. In the same episode that Comedy Central edited to block out the visual depiction of Mohammed, we were treated to the sight of Jesus dancing around and pooping on President Bush.
LGBT crowd gets offended at a villain in a movie being gay: "We deeply apologize and we'll make sure to have more positive gay characters!"
Black people get offended by some idiotic comment by a shock jock: "We deeply apologize and have fired the individual responsible."
Muslims get offended by a picture of Mohammed: "We apologize and will never do that again. Please don't kill us."
Christians get offended by an SNL skit: "Shut up nobody's persecuting you."
Know what I think? I think we ought to be aware of EVERYBODY'S feelings and views, and make a reasonable effort not to be jerks to each other. How about that? At the same time, maybe what we all need is a thicker skin so that when the occasional jerk pops up or someone causes offense by mistake, we can handle it like grownups instead of looking for someone to punish.
That said, when something like this triggers a reaction among Christians it isn't because we feel like the most persecuted group EVAR. It's because we see the direction things are going, and the future doesn't look so bright.