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Deepfreeze32 wrote: How do you feel about dumping real information, or in-universe text into a story? Whenever I feel like something needs explaining, I diverge into a summary of how something works. For instance, I described how a hacking tool works in detail, including how passwords are cracked. I also have included a faux news article or two in the text, to try and give some substance to the world since I hate my own prose.
It really depends on how it's done. For instance, Tom Clancy was notorious for having large passages with detailed descriptions of weapons and military tactics. This made some Clancy fans quite happy, as they enjoyed these technical aspects. For me, not so much. I would rather get back into the action than read something that was dry and seeming more like a historical re-enactment. But it really depends on your audience, as well as the voice you want to portray for yourself. There may be an audience that really digs all the details about computer hacking and ways to manipulate code - in fact, I'm pretty sure there is. There is an audience for pretty much anything out there.

This can be a bit difficult and definitely unpredictable. You don't know who your audience will ultimately be, but if you can find your niche, definitely cater to it. It can be a way to gain lifelong fans of your works.
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Deepfreeze32 wrote:Awesomeness
Win. Yet not win, since I was hoping there was some way to fiddle with the console iterations, as my compy can't run it. XD
Sstavix wrote:Not necessarily. Consider diseases like leprosy, where the nerve endings are deadened. You could rip your leg open on a piece of rusty metal, and not even realize it until you feel weak and dizzy from blood loss.

Have you ever seen the movie "Inside Out?" I just watched it last weekend - great Pixar film! But it has a good message to it, too. Constant happiness is not the key to a healthy, stable personality. We need to experience other emotions in order to be emotionally healthy people.

Not necessarily. There's a reason why I tend to stay out of the kitchen....
I have considered Leprosy, but decided against it.

Thing is, you have to take "no pain is good" to a reverse extreme in arguing against it (like how Leprosy instantly came up; I've never heard anyone who stepped on a Lego say "Wow, I sure love pain and I'm glad it exists in my life), and I tend to hear arguments like this mostly from people who aren't pain constantly. Or people who have been in pain in the past, and aren't now.

Maybe that's not you, but the "pain is good" reasoning doesn't really work on people who hurt constantly. Or there family members. Pain's not a good thing; it's in the same category as poop. It's good at time, but if its happening constantly, it's not anymore.

Porcupine flatulence?
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Chozon1 wrote: Thing is, you have to take "no pain is good" to a reverse extreme in arguing against it (like how Leprosy instantly came up; I've never heard anyone who stepped on a Lego say "Wow, I sure love pain and I'm glad it exists in my life), and I tend to hear arguments like this mostly from people who aren't pain constantly. Or people who have been in pain in the past, and aren't now.

Maybe that's not you, but the "pain is good" reasoning doesn't really work on people who hurt constantly. Or there family members. Pain's not a good thing; it's in the same category as poop. It's good at time, but if its happening constantly, it's not anymore.
Now, see there, you've made a distinction. Constant pain, whether emotional or physical, is not a good thing. It's indicative of a serious problem, and that person needs help of some sort.

But pain, just like your sense of taste or hearing, is an indicator for your body. It's something to tell your brain that "something's wrong" and kicks in the survival instinct to move away from whatever it is that's causing pain. It may be regarded as a necessary evil, but it is necessary if we're going to function as people.

(And, sadly, there are some people who like pain, either inflicting or receiving it, and sometimes both. Consider, if you dare, sadomasochism.)
Chozon1 wrote:Porcupine flatulence?
I'm glad this is a problem I don't have to relate to. But it does make me wonder... would anyone be able to invent toilet paper for porcupines? I can't think of a way that it would work....
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I don't think I brought in a distinction, just carried the idea to its endpoint. If pain were good, having it constantly would not be inherently a problem, no? But there's no possible way that constant pain is a good thing; it's a sign of something gone very wrong. It's similar, in my mind, to calling a heart attack "good" simply because it alerts you to blocked arteries.

Calling it a necessary "evil" essentially says the same thing. It's not good; it's not even OK. It just has its uses, and as such we accept it as part of life.

Also, bidet's; it was a real problem for porcupines everywhere in the 1700's, but the French came up with a solution.

Flatulence in general?
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Chozon1 wrote:I don't think I brought in a distinction, just carried the idea to its endpoint. If pain were good, having it constantly would not be inherently a problem, no? But there's no possible way that constant pain is a good thing; it's a sign of something gone very wrong. It's similar, in my mind, to calling a heart attack "good" simply because it alerts you to blocked arteries.

Calling it a necessary "evil" essentially says the same thing. It's not good; it's not even OK. It just has its uses, and as such we accept it as part of life.
Pretty much, yes. It's like a hammer! A hammer is great to have around! But having one constantly in your hands isn't very conducive to everyday life. (For example, try eating spaghetti with a hammer. Or tying your shoes. Or tying your shoes while eating spaghetti.) Pain is a tool your body uses to provide feedback to your brain. If we didn't have pain, then it would be like trying to pound nails with limp spaghetti.

... or something. I'm a bit tired today....
Chozon1 wrote:Also, bidet's; it was a real problem for porcupines everywhere in the 1700's, but the French came up with a solution.

Flatulence in general?
I don't think I've ever heard of a porcupine using a bidet. However, I think it would be a hilarious prank for various house pets. Especially cats. :twisted:

As for flatulence in general, I think it stinks.
Emwok wrote:Has this year flown by for you?
It does seem like it's gone by quickly, hasn't it? Or maybe it's because I've been eagerly waiting for NaNoWriMo this year. I'm feeling pretty good about this novel!
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So how long do you plan to metaphorically "sit" on your novel before beginning editing?

I'm going to expand what I feel needs expanding and then wait for a month or two.
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Deepfreeze32 wrote:So how long do you plan to metaphorically "sit" on your novel before beginning editing?

I'm going to expand what I feel needs expanding and then wait for a month or two.
It depends on how good I feel about it. My second NaNo, after my wife read it and provided feedback, I've never returned to. I may never return to it. It was a good idea, but when put into practice, I think it fell short. And I felt that way while writing it, too.

But on a general scale, I'd say one to three months would be fine. Work on developing a second draft and then, if you feel good about your revisions, see if you can find some friends to also look it over for you.
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Well, porcupine bidet's are in their burrows, so it's not likely many people have ever seen one. You have to befriend one, then spend some time in their house. And now, if you do, you'll be prepared for the lack of toilet paper.

I do think using one on a cat is a good way to end up with assorted ick flying everywhere, and probably get clawed in the face. O_o

Assorted appetizers to curb Thanksgiving hungers whilst the many and varied Thanks are being given?
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Chozon1 wrote: Assorted appetizers to curb Thanksgiving hungers whilst the many and varied Thanks are being given?
It depends on the circumstances. If people are going around the table talking about things they are thankful for, I don't see why not. If it's in the middle of a prayer, then it's considered to be extremely poor form.
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Truth. This year, in order to defeat the "my goodness sir, you've been talking for 20 minutes and we're all starving and there's 10 people left to go" syndrome that overtakes even the most thankful, kind hearted of individuals ready for Thanksiving dinner, we're planning on small hors d'oeuvre's placed at convenient spots around the table. That way, instead of complaining later, they can have a small snack to tide them over.

Or maybe that's just in my family. O_o

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Chozon1 wrote:Truth. This year, in order to defeat the "my goodness sir, you've been talking for 20 minutes and we're all starving and there's 10 people left to go" syndrome that overtakes even the most thankful, kind hearted of individuals ready for Thanksiving dinner, we're planning on small hors d'oeuvre's placed at convenient spots around the table. That way, instead of complaining later, they can have a small snack to tide them over.

Or maybe that's just in my family. O_o
No, we've used similar things ourselves. Basically, there's a "snacking table" with cheese, crackers, and sometimes salami or summer sausage for people to nibble on until the main course comes out. And as for eating while talking about things we're thankful for, well, after the prayer then it's time to eat, and talking about what you're thankful for becomes part of dinner conversation. ;)
Chozon1 wrote:Scrubbing cabinets?
Strange... I don't think Ive ever seen a cabinet designed exclusively for scrubbing. Do you rub its face on the floor or something?

Actually, I don't mind cleaning the fronts of cabinets too much. It depends on what was on it, though. Dirt and grime from general use? Meh, no big deal. Dried on maple syrup, or that papier mache project the kids did last week? Then it becomes much more of a chore.
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We do things a bit differently, in that we all sit around the table and take turns listing what we're thankful for, then we pray and eat. Which is why we tend to have problems with little things, like the ravenous hunger which builds whilst happy family members are giving thanks.

Dusting the entirety of the ceiling, only to realize with horror that the fine gray powder raining down and covering you is actually bits of dead skin cells and hair? O_o

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Being in a car accident kinda screws up your plans?


Also, how do you feel about killing main characters, or even the protagonist?
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Chozon1 wrote: Dusting the entirety of the ceiling, only to realize with horror that the fine gray powder raining down and covering you is actually bits of dead skin cells and hair? O_o
Don't dust with your mouth open. ;)

Deepfreeze32 wrote:Being in a car accident kinda screws up your plans?
Especially if that accident was caused by a deer. That's been the only time I've spent my birthday in a bar, by the way. No other place was open....
Deepfreeze32 wrote:Also, how do you feel about killing main characters, or even the protagonist?
Delicious. :twisted: When done well, it can really be a sock to the gut for your readers. When not done well, it seems cheap. (e.g. "This issue, Superman DIES! Again!") The real challenge is to find a way to balance the approach.
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