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your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby BryanOnAPC » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:44 pm

I posted this question on a Christian social media app and thought I'd try this crowd out.

I hear people today say "No weapon formed against me shall prosper." What does that actually mean?

I assume people are pulling it from Isaiah 54:17 and it sounds food for a popular saying today, but what does it mean to a follower of Christ today.


After posting this a few days ago on the Christian social media app I mentioned earlier, I realize I needed to point out 'what does people think the "shall prosper" part mean' in the verse, not just the 'no weapon formed against me' part. Does it mean no weapon (or thing coming agaisnt us" shall be successful, shall kill us, harm us or what?

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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby Jarvis » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:28 pm

While I am not quite on the same level as many people when it comes to having studied the Bible, here are my two cents:

The "No weapon formed against me shall prosper" I believe means that while we might have trials, persecution, even death by those who wish us harm, as long as we believe and accept Jesus as our savior, they can never force us to lose our salvation. So though our earthly bodies my perish and those that wielded the "weapon" may prosper temporarily in the end they will face judgement for what they have done, even if not on this earth.

Just my opinion of course, I may be wrong so if anyone thinks I am, feel free to refute me.

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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby ccgr » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:32 am

I view it as you can attack my body, but not my soul

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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby ArcticFox » Sun Jul 14, 2019 12:05 am

I think it's a commentary about the bleak outlook for those who contend against those who follow the Lord.

A "weapon" here can be literal, like a sword, or it can be more metaphorical, like a law designed to oppress the faithful. It's all over the Scriptures that those who fight against God's own are doomed. For example, here's a few verses from Isaiah 50.

6 I gave my back to the smiters, and my cheeks to them that plucked off the hair: I hid not my face from shame and spitting.
7 For the Lord God will help me; therefore shall I not be confounded: therefore have I set my face like a flint, and I know that I shall not be ashamed.
8 He is near that justifieth me; who will contend with me? let us stand together: who is mine adversary? let him come near to me.
9 Behold, the Lord God will help me; who is he that shall condemn me? lo, they all shall wax old as a garment; the moth shall eat them up.

The weapon can hurt us, yes... but ultimately the adversaries of God will not prosper.
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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby BryanOnAPC » Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:18 am

The weapon can hurt us, yes... but ultimately the adversaries of God will not prosper.

I agree. To me, that's exactly what that scripture is all about.

Unfortunately when I hear people say "No weapon formed against me shall prosper," in the context they say it, it might not line up to that explanation you gave.

Most people I mention the question too, they only answer the "weapon" part, but the "shall prosper" part.

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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby J.K. Riki » Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:34 pm

Well you'd have to ask the person who was using it (the "against ME" part would refer to them). I've never used the phrase, so I don't really have a meaning for it. :)

As far as the verse from Isaiah, the first thing I do with any verse is put it into its context.

If anyone attacks you,

it is not from Me;

whoever assails you

will fall before you.

Behold, I have created the craftsman

who fans the coals into flame

and forges a weapon

fit for its task;

and I have created the destroyer

to wreak havoc.

No weapon formed against you shall prosper,

and you will refute every tongue that accuses you.

This is the heritage of the LORD’s servants,

and their vindication is from Me,”

declares the LORD.

Then I like to look up a bunch of commentaries and see what folks who have more education on the subject than I do have to say. (This doesn't mean they're right, only that they may have insights I didn't consider.)

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Re: your meaning of "No Weapon formed against me shall prosper."

Postby BryanOnAPC » Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:32 am

Well you'd have to ask the person who was using it (the "against ME" part would refer to them). I've never used the phrase, so I don't really have a meaning for it. :)

Yea, I agree. That was my attempt, to ask the question to those who use it and/or people who knew others who use it. More so like what does it mean to people as it relates to them today oppose to what the meaning and context of the original scripture. I really didn't mean it as a bible study topic or a scripture that I need help understanding.

I figured it was a good conversation piece so I went with it :D

Thanks for responding and keeping the conversation going.


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