Re: Evolution?
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:25 pm
Judge not lest you be shot in head?
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Part of the thing that fuels these fires is that we're in another culture cycle where too many people believe that religion and science MUST be at odds. Skepticism of one is automatically attributed to the other. For example, 100% of the people with whom I've debated my skepticism of evolution jumped at first to the conclusion that my skepticism was motivated by my beliefs. This was true even in cases where people knew going in that I was a Mormon, and the LDS Church has no doctrine on the matter one way or the other.
I've laid out my own thoughts about evolution above - it doesn't have anything to do with my religion. The science just doesn't add up to me. It requires a leap of faith, and that isn't a scientific approach, in my mind. I'm willing to accept that evolution is a theory, but I'm not going to take it as literal fact at this point.ArchAngel wrote: And to me, that always brings up the question. Even when I called myself a skeptic of evolution, so many creationists were so convinced that Evolution was wrong. I grew up with creationist textbooks, I'm still unsure what truly convinced them that Evolution was wrong, outside of their reading of scripture. And it's best to be honest, if it's your religion, own it. Be upfront and honest on why. If it's a religion vs. science thing, just admit it.
This. This all day long.
I have LOL. It's funny how sometimes the enthusiasm for defending evolution theory starts to resemble a religious zeal. Question it at your peril. The justification for this is, of course, that it's the truth and you have to be foolish for not accepting it, but then I wonder what Galileo would say to that.
Erm... hate to burst your bubble, but that's what scientists think Neanderthals and their predecessors are. While they are still looking for "the missing link," which actually would firmly tie monkeys to humans, they do believe that these are the ancestors of humanity.
Actually, the deer are even more bizarre than that! A deer can get pregnant at any time, but when the season gets to the point where food is scarce - such as winter - she somehow has the ability to actually put her pregnancy on pause until the situation improves.
What is interesting about all of that is that most of the "fossils" of ancient man have been found to be fabricated. DNA evidence and bone examinations have shown that many of the Neanderthals and early humans have simian bones added to the skeletons to promote the idea that these are early humans based on posture and "transitional" states. Even Lucy the Australopithecus is questioned for validity. The pilt down man is another known hoax.Sstavix wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:23 pm Erm... hate to burst your bubble, but that's what scientists think Neanderthals and their predecessors are. While they are still looking for "the missing link," which actually would firmly tie monkeys to humans, they do believe that these are the ancestors of humanity.
Interesting - I didn't know that! But still, I would imagine that there are many scientists who insist that these anthropological discoveries are not hoaxes and the science is valid.RemnantRD wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:55 pmWhat is interesting about all of that is that most of the "fossils" of ancient man have been found to be fabricated. DNA evidence and bone examinations have shown that many of the Neanderthals and early humans have simian bones added to the skeletons to promote the idea that these are early humans based on posture and "transitional" states. Even Lucy the Australopithecus is questioned for validity. The pilt down man is another known hoax.Sstavix wrote: ↑Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:23 pm Erm... hate to burst your bubble, but that's what scientists think Neanderthals and their predecessors are. While they are still looking for "the missing link," which actually would firmly tie monkeys to humans, they do believe that these are the ancestors of humanity.