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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:25 pm

In b4 the "stop whining things aren't as bad as you're claiming" lecture.

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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ccgr » Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:45 pm

there's a reason why we don't watch much TV...if a show is worth watching we'll wait to stream or watch it on DVD/Blu-ray with no comercials

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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby RedPlums » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:04 pm

Seriously, if you don't like a TV show, do not watch it.

We as Christians ought to know that the world doesn't care what we think and that TV will just get worse. If we don't like a TV show or movie then just don't watch it. Easy as that.
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby TheAlexTDB » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:30 pm

Same with my folks, we don't watch TV.

I'll agree with Plum too, actually that's one of the first few things that ran through my mind when I first saw this topic :(
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ChickenSoup » Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:55 pm

I wondered if it was an overreaction ot misunderstanding of intent. Then I saw that it was One Million Moms calling for a boycott, and my suspicions were confirmed
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:02 am

When the show has an angel delivering a line like "...might be a mole or could be a wax burn from some degrading roleplay..." or drinking from a flask at 2 PM, I think I can see One Million Moms' concerns. Most people in this culture think of Christianity when they think of angels, so yeah it's a valid concern when they're portrayed in this way.

Granted, people aren't going to look at this and think this is how angels are described in churches, but it also doesn't convey any of the reality of how they are taught, nor does it show any reverence for the purpose and mission of angels.

So more TV garbage.
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby Deepfreeze32 » Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:43 am

Never mind that the angels described in the bible are straight-up trippy, at least in the old testament. The Ophanim are described as "Wheels within wheels, with eyes along the rims." The Cherubim are described as having "the likeness of four living creatures" (Man, Lion, Ox, Eagle) with four wings. Then you have the Seraphim, who have six wings. Two cover their face, two cover their feet, and they fly with two.

The remaining descriptions are more vague, but can perhaps can be attributed to the general sense of fear they tend to invoke. I believe somewhere in the text it describes angels as spiritual beings. Perhaps they do not exist purely in a physical form? Either way, the Archangels saying "Don't be afraid" when they arrive isn't some form of pleasantry. It's because they literally inspire terror from their appearance, if you were the kind of person who had been reading (or had read to you) the texts your whole life.

Either way, if you ignore contemporary depictions of angels, they seem less like glorified people with wings and more like the creations of H.P. Lovecraft. Someone should pitch THAT to Hollywood.

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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ChickenSoup » Wed Jan 27, 2016 12:28 pm

When the show has an angel delivering a line like "...might be a mole or could be a wax burn from some degrading roleplay..." or drinking from a flask at 2 PM, I think I can see One Million Moms' concerns. Most people in this culture think of Christianity when they think of angels, so yeah it's a valid concern when they're portrayed in this way.

Granted, people aren't going to look at this and think this is how angels are described in churches, but it also doesn't convey any of the reality of how they are taught, nor does it show any reverence for the purpose and mission of angels.

So more TV garbage.

OMM is claiming they're distorting the truth about angels, as if there was a council of evil Hollywood producers gleefully weaving misleading information into the script in a grand master plan to thwart Christianity. In my opinion, Christianity does a good enough job making a joke of itself; outside input is superfluous.
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:03 pm

OMM is claiming they're distorting the truth about angels, as if there was a council of evil Hollywood producers gleefully weaving misleading information into the script in a grand master plan to thwart Christianity.
I never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity (or apathy). Hollywood producers don't give a fig one way or the other. Annoying Christians is a way to be considered as "edgy" and give the pop culture cred. "Look how cool we are, we're not afraid to irritate Christians! Now tune in!" I don't think they want to get rid of Christianity. It's too useful to them.
In my opinion, Christianity does a good enough job making a joke of itself; outside input is superfluous.
That's helpful.
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ChickenSoup » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:16 pm

OMM is claiming they're distorting the truth about angels, as if there was a council of evil Hollywood producers gleefully weaving misleading information into the script in a grand master plan to thwart Christianity.
I never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity (or apathy). Hollywood producers don't give a fig one way or the other. Annoying Christians is a way to be considered as "edgy" and give the pop culture cred. "Look how cool we are, we're not afraid to irritate Christians! Now tune in!" I don't think they want to get rid of Christianity. It's too useful to them.
It's a component of our culture in general. Nothing is entitled to falling outside the realm of parody, even if it's parody to the point of being insulting.

That said, the show probably stirred up enough controversy that it generated enough headlines to be it's own advertising from the show on its own.

On the other hand: who cares? Don't watch television, then, if it's garbage. I haven't watched network television in about 4 years.
In my opinion, Christianity does a good enough job making a joke of itself; outside input is superfluous.
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But seriously, to clarify--I do mean "groups representing Christianity" when I say that, rather than meaning that Christianity is a joke, or something. OMM is one of several groups that gives me eye-rolling spasms to the point that I'm embarrassed they claim to represent the same faith as me.
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Re: Angel From Hell TV Show upsetting Christians

Postby ArcticFox » Wed Jan 27, 2016 1:33 pm

It's a component of our culture in general. Nothing is entitled to falling outside the realm of parody, even if it's parody to the point of being insulting.
That said, the show probably stirred up enough controversy that it generated enough headlines to be it's own advertising from the show on its own.
Good point. A show like that does indeed advertise itself.
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But seriously, to clarify--I do mean "groups representing Christianity" when I say that, rather than meaning that Christianity is a joke, or something. OMM is one of several groups that gives me eye-rolling spasms to the point that I'm embarrassed they claim to represent the same faith as me.
Heh I spent the last 4 days snowed into my apartment, salty's about the only flavor I've got left :P

I understand what you mean about the groups though (thanks for clarifying.) I get the occasional facepalm too when I see groups that I nominally agree with being foolish and undermining their own credibility.
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