ChickenSoup wrote: 1) chicksontheright.com does not seem like an unbiased source to me
That means you hate women! Woman-hater!
(I didn't intend the link to be unbiased.
Like I said, I happened to read it and it fit perfectly with the topic. If you have an article explaining why that woman wasn't allowed to stay at the abortion clinic to wait for her ride, though, feel free to link it.)
ChickenSoup wrote: This discussion is about whether or not PP is worth our tax dollars, not whether or not the original founders had questionable opinions regarding black people.
"Questionable opinions?" She was a staunch eugenicist who basically believed that if you didn't fit in what she felt was ideal - namely, an "educated" white person - then you should be sterilized or otherwise prevented to breed. A sentiment shared by some progressives even today, I might add....
For the record, I'm of the opinion that PP shouldn't be receiving federal funding either, but mostly because it's a for-profit industry. I'm not arguing that they don't offer health services (other than infanticide) to help their communities - I just don't think we should be the ones paying for it - especially in light of their questionable moral decisions. ArcticFox posted some of these above, and those are just a few of the non-abortion exaples from the organization.
Bruce_Campbell wrote:CS made the point I wanted to make, but it doesnt stip there. Martin Luther was a raving anti-semite; towards the end of his life he wrote a pamphlet titled "Of the Jews and Their Lies" that fueled a lot of hatred towards Jews in Germany (and yes, some historians think the pamphlet may have influenced You-Know-Who). The fact of the matter is that lots of people were racist in the past in Europe and the US.
Good point, but this is getting off-topic. However, I do agree that it's worthwhile to examine the position of a group's founders and what they stood for. Then compare it with the actions and practices of the group since that time. Have they learned from their mistakes and evolved since then, or have they gotten worse? In the case of Planned Parenthood, I would say that they've gotten worse in terms of their moral stances, but better at publicity.